Remove 165 Aircon
Why do I want to remove my aircon?
In the UK you probably only really use it about 4 times in a year, it doesn't really get that hot! Besides, you've got a sunroof and windows! If you remove the aircon then you can benefit from the following:
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Lighter car - 17.3kg
- Less engine bay complexity
- Much more room in the engine bay
- You can fit either a Front Mount Intercooler or a larger IC radiator
- Better cabin heater/fan
Are there any tricky areas to watch out for?
Removing the system is pretty straight forward, just a case of ditching bits and pieces.
The only real problem is how to remove the pump, as the pulley that turns the pump shares the same belt as the alternator pulley.
Therefore, if you remove the pump the pump pulley won't be there, and your belt
will be too big. Also the tensioner pulley for this belt won't work i.e. it'll
be round the wrong way...a solution for this is below.
Apart from the pump, the liquid/gas pipe connections may cause you a little
grief as they will probably be corroded. You can hacksaw through these if you
want, but I managed to get them all undone with a bit of swearing and large spanners.
Be certain to leave one of the engine bay sensors located adjacent to the
diagnostic socket attached to the aircon wiring loom, otherwise the radiator fan will run continuously -
Picture. Everything else can be ditched, with no
ECU
error codes.
Which bits can I remove?
I suggest removing the aircon in this order...
- Pipe work
- Cabin chiller unit
- Cooling fan - mounted on the radiator
- Liquid receiver - mounted on the radiator
- Radiator - at front of car (the condenser)
- Condenser mounting brackets
- Pump
- Sensors
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Overall layout for the aircon system. Note that the pipe routing is reversed on UK cars |
Removing the pipe work
Before removing the pipe work, ensure that the system is depressurised and correctly vented i.e. take it to your local aircon man who will reclaim the gas from your system, just so that you remain environmentally friendly!
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Remove the front plastic trim and grille. You'll need to unclip the headlight washer pipe work as well... |
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Pipe work to remove (location as if you are standing at the front of the car):
- Pump flexible pipes - front left
- Condenser solid pipe work - front and right hand side
- Liquid receiver to condenser - front from thing that looks like a drinks can!
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All the pipe work removed. The pipe work will be
awkward/stiff to undo. Use decent spanners or cut the pipes with a hacksaw... |
Removing the Cabin Chiller unit
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Remove glove box, 2 x screws holding it in at the bottom. This exposes the fan trunking as shown. The plastic surround unbolts and you can slide away the casing to reveal the chiller unit housed within |
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The chiller surround/ducting is bolted at 6 positions |
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After removing the 6 bolts and unclipping the wiring, the plastic unit can be withdrawn |
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The chiller unit "simply" pulls free out from the plastic box. Note the sensor pushed into the cooling matrix. Remove this, but leave it attached to the wiring loom, tape it somewhere up out of the way within the original chiller surround |
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Refit the fan/heater ducting, (ensuring that temp sensor
is still connected) and put the glove box back together |
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Underneath the white plastic housing is the AC amplifier
and a couple of other bits, these can also be removed |
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The entry point from the engine bay into the cabin for the aircon pipes passes through a grommet with 2 holes. To plug these holes either use blanking caps or you can purchase the correct blanking grommet from Toyota for ~£5, part No 90950-01189 |
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The fitted blanking plate |
Removing the cooling fan / liquid receiver / condenser / condenser mounting brackets
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Unbolt and remove the bonnet catch, horns and supporting metal brace |
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Unbolt and remove the fan from the front of the condenser...it was awkward but it came out eventually |
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Unbolt and remove the liquid receiver from the condenser |
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Unbolt and remove the mounting brackets etc... |
Removing the aircon pump
Bit tricky this one. The alternator drive belt feeds around the crank pulley, alternator, belt tensioner and then the aircon pump.
This article assumes you have contacted me about my pulley kit - for sale! (the
kit has been tried and tested and will fit the 165 and 185)...
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To remove the pump, undo the electrical connections and then remove the 4 bolts as shown. This will also release the alternator belt tensioner pulley mounting bracket |
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Pump removed from the car... |
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Assemble the new pulley onto the bracket, and using the 2 small bolts re-attach the bracket back onto the block as shown - 25 Nm |
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Fit the new replacement shorter belt |
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Adjust the tensioner until the belt it tight - ish.
Important - do not over tighten the belt. This may cause premature bearing failure in the alternator and/or belt tensioner pulley as well as contributing to cracking the head! (the cracking issue only appears to be applicable to the 165) |
What does the kit consist of?
Machined pulley, new bearing and new correctly sized belt. Other benefits are:
- Your bearing is probably knackered anyway and will need replacing...might be that source of noise when you first start it up...? Give the pulley a "wiggle"
got a lot a play...you need a new bearing
- New alternator belt - when was the last time you checked it?
What does the kit look like?
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Original and replacement pulley |
Side view of original and modified pulley |
Side view of bearing housing |
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Machined pulley matched to shorter ribbed belt |
Complete belt tensioner assembly |
Fitted kit - the pulley is a little rusty because the car hadn't been run for 2 weeks or so and the pulley got wet! |
Does the kit work?
In a nutshell - yes. Was on the car for approx 20,000 miles, numerous trips up to the redline with no problems. This kit has also been fitted to 185s with no problems.
Sounds like a good solution! What other methods are there of removing the pump?
- Hmmm, I have heard of some people simply running a grooved belt on a flat pulley...not good. What happens if the belt tracks off a little and comes off
the pulley? What if you were doing 7000 rpm? It's not worth the risk, get the kit and have done with it, problem gone
- Obtain an adjustable alternator mounting from another engine - the 3S-FE pulley will fit
- Obtain a grooved pulley (part no 16603-88360) ~£100, and belt (part no 99365-01000) ~£30 from Toyota - expensive!!
I don't want the hassle/expense can you send me a kit?
Yep, e-mail me for more details
Removing the sensors
Any questions or comments then please feel free to e-mail me
Disclaimer
This article was written as a helpful guide as to how I replaced the alternator belt tensioner pulley and removed the air conditioning system. If you are in any doubt, or not qualified, do not do undertake this modification, consult a qualified mechanic. Alteration away from the manufacturers specification is not recommended.
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Thanks to Stew Booton for providing the engine bay blanking cap info